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ARMY STRONG SPOOF by paradigm-shifting ARMY STRONG SPOOF by paradigm-shifting
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Got your attention? Good. Because this video [link] makes the same point as this deviation does.

So, if you bash this deviation, you're bashing the troops.


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You Made Them Strong. We'll Make Them ARMY STRONG.

What a crock of shit.

PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF THE FOLLOWING REPLY I MADE, PRIOR TO MAKING YOUR OWN RESPONSE:

Dear Mr. ~1UFC-GeorgeStPierre,

Thank you ever so much for your thoughtless and entertaining reply of "Janka PV2
United States Army Infantry

Dear TWarrior and all of you that decided to post against the military. The sad fact that 99% of u decided to not join the military, not just here but in the nation, 99 fucking percent decided not to..

U choose to fucking bitch about the men and women even some 18 year old boys made into men, that are fighting the bullets to let u even live here.

All of u are a shame to America and all the morals and values we stand for. Even if some recruiters have tricks and gimmicks, the army is a whole and functions as one no matter the asshole who gets us here.

We all train, we all end up with a gun, we all end up serving. I'm not sure what brought ur hate against our own army, but ur insulting the wrong brand of people pal. Ur the shit and bodies we drive over with humvees and put lead into. Ur the guy who doesn't deserve to live here.

Chances are u wanted to serve, but they turned u down after they found out u were gay.

Dear JWeeksUSArmy, ur not alone in the world of Patriots pal. I am requesting to fight in Afghanistan after AIT."

Thanks for taking the whole thing out of context. It is much appreciated. Trolls like you do serve a practical purpose, as your back peddling is quite amusing.

Thankfully, you're not the only hate monger to have made such assumptions and spewed such rederic, so -- I have other idiots to quote as well as my replies to them. All nice and pre-fab. Cool, eh? :D

I will start with !INVADER-ZYLA1 who so ignorantly stated in his reply "The army has been saving our sorry asses for years. You, my friend, are a crock of shit."

He got his ass handed to him when I responded with "Please tell these iraq war vets [link] that they are a crock of shit, too. seeing as they share my opinion. lets not forget the viet nam vets such as my dad and many more who agree with me. not to mention the over 150,000 vets currently HOMELESS and our government refuses to help them out. please tell all of these people how full of shit they are too. i'd love to see you do that :D"

Of course, he got off the hook far easier than ~JWeeksUSARMY when he claimed "The Army isn't as much a crock of shit as you might think. I'm not going to get into a debate, but I will say this. Less than 1% of the people in the United States join any sort of armed forces that it watched over by the department of defense. You must be sick in the head if you don't think im god damned proud to serve." to which I responded "I am anti-iraq war. Not anti-soldiers. Right now, our government is wasting lives (among other things) in the persuit of profit.

My father agrees with me and he served his tour of duty in Viet Nam. He'd think you're sick in the head for daring to call me sick in the hear for being against a pointless war.

Also -- while you are at it -- check out these other soldiers: [link]

Make sure you let these guys know that they are sick in the head too. We obviously all need professional help for not being blood thirsty.

Defense I've got nothing wrong with. Soldiers I've got nothing wrong with. Wasteful loss of life -- this I have a problem with.

So go shoot some rounds into the air or something. It's better than acting as if anyone who disagrees with you is somehow sick / unpatriotic.

My father is both saddened and ashamed when he sees people like you talk this sort of dung.

I'll quote him directly -- "I risked my life for my country and my country betrayed us all!"

There are over 150,000 HOMELESS VIET NAM VETS RIGHT NOW. Go preach your bullshit to them and see what they think of it. Who is helping them? Those of the less than 1% who served. Those who bleed for this country -- and now they are homeless and abandoned by the very country they risked their life for.

Peach your pseudo-patriotic rhetoric elsewhere. You're nuts.

By the way -- how were you so sure that I never served? I didn't, but you're not a mind reader. You sure as hell didn't know my Dad served in Viet Nam. You also didn't know that my grand father served in World War 2.

So save your hate for someone who gives a fuck."

You of course, have earned a special seat of honor. As you've pretty much been the glue which has bound all of this together. Next hateful inbred redneck, trigger happy for a fight online because they'd shoot themselves in the foot with a real gun -- gets to simply get a paste of all of this, which I may even include in the artist details.

Now, lets get down to brass tax, shall we?

- it doesn't mater to you that my father served in viet nam and went through a hell you could never imagine. the fact that he agrees with me, make him your enemy.

- the veterans against the iraq war link i've given you. well, those vets -- in your mind -- are obviously a bunch of treacherous pussies. doesn't mater that they are your brothers and sisters in arms -- they have offended your ego and tiny penis, so -- they must pay with their own blood.

- there are over 150,000 vets homeless right now. seeing as you are a good little mindless sheep who believes everything the government tells him and you do as your told like a good little robot -- i am sure you do not see these homeless and disabled vets as being betrayed by our government. some how, some way -- obviously they got what they deserved. at least, in your mind they did.

- you just joined DA today and with nothing in your gallery, no favs, no nada -- your priority goal here is obviously to cause problems for people, not to contribute to the deviantART community. you will find your stay to be short and unpleasant. most people will ignore you. the rest (fellow trolls such as yourself) who have more balls than you do -- will make you regret having made an account here. then of course, theres the people like me. happy to laugh at you with gleeful enjoyment and take pleasure from your pain :)

What it all boils down to is: since daddy anally violated you as a child, you never ever get your way, you have pent up insecurities, a small penis and your testicles no longer function as they should -- the sudden realization that you are a waste of space on this earth, has you seeking redemption by blindly wanting to go off and fight a war you don't understand and with luck -- get yourself killed.

Well sir, I salute you! Go off now, good solider! Fight the good fight! Die the good death! The gene pool thanks you in advance, you inbred piece of dung! :D

This has been a public service message! :) :D
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12103100 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Uhuh...
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Jacob3908 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
I think this video's in the spirit of things. [link]
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013  Professional General Artist
Indeed.
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Shad0wf1re Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
ARMY=cannon fodder
Marines=expensive cannon fodder
this is how they are seen by those assholes on capital hill
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
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nanashi89 Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012
^This man!

It takes brave souls like yourself to attempt to expose truth hiding behind this whole "turkey buzzard in bald eagle's clothing" that we've had forced on us for years.

DeviantArt seriously needs a multplier option to raise the number of loves and favorites on artwork, because this is something we need to hear, more than ever.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, thank you :)

There are endless "multiplier options" but first it takes coming to terms with the Mental Software within the human being (ourselves) before anything or anyone external to us, can be of any use. We need to understand that the ideas of anyone inherently being bad, wrong, weak or whatever, is all "divide and conquer" sort of LIES used to pit us against each other. Hitler used these methods OPENLY and his Reich was short lived.

His inheritors realized that if you keep the fascism a secret while pretending we are free, then over decades you can throw everyones belief systems into their polar opposites. See also, "The Boiling Frog Experiment".

Everyone has equal potential and no one is limited. Limitation is a lie we've been handed and its created very real illusions so we might act as the wardens of the prison of our own mind. Ever watch The Matrix? Thats EXACTLY whats going on here. True, we're not plugged physically into mile high alcoves being enslaved by machines. That is just an allegory. Its an expansion of Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". But the world is perceived through our world view paradigms which means -- it matters LESS what truly "is" or "is not" and matters MORE what we THINK things are, or are not.

Because if we buy into lies, then the facts don't matter when we are so absolutely convinced that the lies are the truth and that the truth is nothing but lies.

If from a small child you were absolutely convinced that your legs did not work and you could not walk, it would not matter what so ever that your legs work just fine. It would be irrelevant that physically and biologically, there was nothing wrong with your legs.

The muscle atrophy would be your permission slip excuse to keep locked into the lie that your legs "do not work" and when anyone would say "you just have muscle atrophy, you can rehabilitate yourself" you would call those people liars.

So you see, believing is seeing, not the other way around.

We have been trained to respond to EVERYTHING using our "fight or flight" mechanism. So to someone who is LOGICAL, you can say "there is an obstacle in your way, here is how to go around it" and the logical mind says "why, thank you for that information. you have increased my ability to be efficient, and I appreciate your kindness".

But to the irrational "fight or flight" mind you say the same and you receive violent ad homonym outrage. Because they have been trained that new information must make you feel wrong, afraid, weak, guilty, betrayed, saddened and hopeless. We have been made addicted to our comfort zones the same as a crack addict to crack and we will destroy others and ourselves to defend those comfort zones. Society has set our comfort zone at MISERY. So anything higher than misery, is seen as the enemy.

If a person can come to terms with the fact that this has been done to them, and in such a way where they can receive this information using the frontal lobe, the LOGICAL free will center of the brain, to override those neural networks of fascism we have all been programmed with -- then you can begin to expand your awareness to not only see through the lies, but to easily learn what all of us as individuals can do about it.

But until a human reaches a point of willingness to expand their comfort zone in this way, then all "multiplier options" are useless to such a person, because the truth becomes scary and dizzying. They run back to their comfort zone and attack anyone who might try to stop them.

So I am giving you the options that Neo was given. Red Pill or Blue Pill. I respect everyones choices because all good things must come in due time and one can not go there, until they are ready to go there. :)

Also -- you might find this useful: [link]
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have a long family tradition of military service and I would have myself if my epilepsy hadn't held me back from it, but seeing people say that makes me mad. Hearing it from Kissinger pisses me off. I would think veterans are the last group you want to screw over. They know how to mess stuff up if pissed enough.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
I provide as much content as I can on deviantART, YouTube, Facebook and beyond geared towards people who have a desire to understand how everything all went wrong and what needs to be understood first in order to even be able to have any clue as to how to begin to put things right.

This is one of the really good ones I enjoy sharing. It does a good job of summarizing things, but without losing important aspects of the point.

It won't solve your woes, but it might give you some clarity and that is always a welcomed thing. :hug:
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Jacob3908 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
I'm too tired to comment... for now I'll say that you did an excellent job on this and should be proud.

Snipits: Hell is paved with good intentions, and I decided recently to not do ROTC
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks :)

With that said, a couple things you might also find to be interesting.

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Lets see what you make of these :)
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Lt-Colonel-Sharpy Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I have always HATED Kissinger!:X
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
I'm just glad most of the world knows about the Globalist Elites and aren't dumb enough to blame the American people anymore. Americans aren't stupid but most are ignorant and getting rude wake up calls about the truth of world affairs. They are asleep and we need our brothers and sisters in other countries to keep waking America up more and more.

America is a sleeping giant that needs to wake up and join the rest of the planet, instead of vegging out to FUX News - Unfair and Biased or America's Top Model.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! WAKE UP!!!!
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Lt-Colonel-Sharpy Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
This dA Journal might also interest you.
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Lt-Colonel-Sharpy Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Interesting.
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:iconparadigm-shifting:
paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
Please do share it, if you find it of benefit. :)
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Lt-Colonel-Sharpy Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Well, none of my friends has an interest in such topics, I'm afraid.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
Well, sharing it online does not require you to know the person. My sharing on deviantART has not required me to know you or anyone. Just my desire to share. So, I post journals and message replies. That is sharing, is it not?
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d3monicmixer Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012   Artist
i know onw way to stop this shit but i dont think a lot of people would do it dont vote if everyone stoped voting one year maybe thell listen to us the people and get ideas for the congress and other high powers that are and i quote -ASSHOLES-toawrd the military and btw if one of u high people or henry kissinger are listening if we really did get called your lapdogs by u just imagine wat youd do if we disobbeyd orders and stopped fighting yeah i mean it to so fuck all u congress and shit youll a bunch of assholes and can go to hell i will disobey direct orders i give no shit
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Amen, brother! Its nice to see someone who understands the truth of this shit and isn't falling for all of the lies and bullshit.

We don't absolutely need government and money and war and all of this bullshit, we're capable of being sovereign. The problem is, that people need to be educated on how to be sovereign and independent otherwise you could have a thousand good ideas that would work, but will fail because the peoples minds are not evolved forward enough.

Resource Based Economics is the way to go, but the people are not ready yet. So people try to bring in these ideas and they fail and they fail and they fail and so people bicker and bitch about whether or not the system would work. Of course it would work. Its like a hammer. Just a tool for fucks sake. But if we're idiots and keep smacking our thumbs with the hammer, then we're not ready for the hammer yet. We need to be taught how to use the hammer.

People always want someone to save them and can talk the talk about how bad things are and blah blah blah but no one wants to walk the walk. And, its understandable. We need to become the change we wanna create, like Gandhi said. So we are living proof as to whats possible so that people start to get curious.

People think if they scream in peoples faces like some sort of scary psychotic cult leader, that its gonna wake people up! LOL! No its not, its gonna make people say "whoa that dude is a fucking psycho, lets get the fuck away from him!" hahahaha.

Screaming at people like some sort of deranged idiot is the tactic the powers that be used to put people to sleep in the first place. So going off half cocked like some sort of self-righteous goddamned idiot with umedicated emotional issues and a severe crack habit is NOT the way to wake anyone up. It just makes people look foolish.

And as you already know, we need to start setting the examples in our personal lives because like you said -- these wall street assholes do not give a fuck and they never will. So crying to congress aka WALL STREET is like trying to talk reason into an alcoholic daddy while on a drinking binge. Ain't gonna happen. People are just kidding themselves if they think that if they scream loudly enough that any of these rich fucking twats are going to suddenly give a fuck.

The Occupy Movements are great because they wake people up and they SCARE corporations. But anyone who thinks an Occupy Movement is going to make corporations give a shit, is living a deluded fantasy.

We don't vote at the polls. Thats a puppet show and a fucking joke. Wanna know what voting is and how to make your vote count? I'll show you, its easy.

When you grow a small garden so you can save a few hundred bucks off of your grocery bill instead of giving it to the corporations, thats a fucking vote! When you use 1 or 2 LESS gallons of gas per week, thats a vote. When you and your neighbors share your flowers from your garden instead of handing hundreds of dollars to Menards or Home Depot or some corporate controlled plant nursery, thats a vote. When you run Linux and use free and open source software, instead of spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on mac and microsoft garbage, thats a vote. When you decide to make money on your home videos by using the YouTube Partners Program, thats a vote. When you use DC to AC inverters to reduce your draw and lower your electric bill, thats a vote. When you burn your yard waste and junk mail and dump the ashes in your garden instead of buying bags of dirt from corporate controlled hardware stores, thats a vote. When you spend your money on local mom and pop stores and know if ur paying a buck or two extra on something, you're supporting yourself and your neighbors and fucking the corporations, thats a vote. When you refuse to obey an unconstitutional law even if it means going to jail, thats a vote. When you use home schooling systems such as K12, thats a vote. When you add solar or wind power to your home, thats a vote. When you buy a USED car that is fuel efficient, thats a vote. When you UPGRADE your current USED car to a fuel efficient engine, thats a vote. When you use a motor assisted bicycle that gets 150MPG and can go 40MPH, instead of giving your money away to needing licenses, plates, stickers, insurance and blah blah blah -- thats a vote. When you stay home and microwave a meal instead of eating at mc donalds, thats a vote. When you respect the opinions of others even when you disagree with them and you don't try to conform them to the domination of your selfish ego, thats a vote. When you give a bag of food or an old shirt to a homeless guy instead of giving him a dollar or two, thats a vote. When you tell a cop that they will be held accountable for an illegal action and that you'll be contacting your lawyer about a civil suit, thats a vote. Even if you don't really have a lawyer and it only serves to just scare the shit out of the cop, thats still a vote. When you sort through your garbage and take it to a recycle center and get paid for it, instead of being lazy and throwing it away, thats a vote. Even if you have no recycle center that pays and you can only donate recycled materials, thats still a vote. When we form online communities focused on being understanding and respectful and focused on solving problems rather than just bitching about them like some pissed off little kid, thats a vote.

I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on. But you know -- I already know I'm preaching to the choir, brother. And THAT is a vote, too! :)
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d3monicmixer Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012   Artist
[link] funny as hell u need to post that hahahahahahaha ud get a lot of people to listen and thats a lot of votes holyshit
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2012  Professional General Artist
:)
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d3monicmixer Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012   Artist
lol
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halomarine Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Student Writer
The worst part is, we vote for our goverment... and these are the people we put in power... but since most of congress and house of reps dont have a time limit for office, they are allowed to do what ever. and theres also the problem of people who dont want to work and still get paid... and so on... and so on... this is the country that we have created... sadly
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Professional General Artist
Just curious -- how exactly is it that our vote counts again?

You have a private corporation called the Federal Reserve Bank (which is about as federal as federal express) who HIJACKED the government in 1913 under everyones nose and with unlimited monies, has been pre-selecting both candidates for any and all offices who are loyal only to the puppet masters at the top who control both sides.

How many MILLIONS of dollars does it take to run a campaign for office? Where does that money come from? And who are the officials going to be loyal to? Joe blow down the street who makes $24,000 a year? Or big daddy corporation who has more money than God?

Money talks, the rest walks.

No one chose anyone for shit. The corporations choose for both sides, they get who they want in no matter who wins. The game is rigged. Think about it.
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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
hi, um im just a little confused, are you against how the gov treats the soldiers or the soldiers?
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Professional General Artist
Oh in addition -- not all of the replies on this deviation are hostile and most if not every solider who has replied to this either started off on my side about this -- or -- misunderstood this as bashing them but accepted my explanations and said they feel the same way and appologized for the misunderstanding. So thats another good source for answering your question.

I am not by any means some high authority on this subject. There are many awesome people who can shed better light on it than I :) :hug:

Thank you again!
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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh well that's cool that they apologized.
Thanks for clearing it up :)

your welcome :hug: :)
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
:) :hug:

I think you might like my journals. If you can tolerate a lot of reading. Although I do post multimedia content, too. I try to make it clear in the title between [brackets] as to what sort of content it is so that people can decide if they wanna check it out or not :)

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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lol sure i'll read them.
i need to start reading more anyways :D
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Professional General Artist
I look forward to your feedback on them :) :hug:
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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha okay but be warned, im a slow reader x.x
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Professional General Artist
s'all good :D :hug:
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Professional General Artist
I could rant endlessly on this, but I think the soldiers themselves are more qualified than I am to answer that one for you. So I would highly recommend you hear what they have to say about it: [link]

Thats one of many sources. Although there are some shows of Free Speech TV where soldiers really get into the thick of it with explanations also. They have a website but they also have a Dish Network Channel as well.

Thank you for asking instead of judging. Much appreciated! :) :hug: Its nice to see intelligent and rational minds seeking facts. I get too many people on a witch hunt or holy crusade driven by dogmatic patriotism and ego.

As a wise person once said: "My planet is my country and my religion is to do good" :)
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
hey it took this idiot [link] MONTHS to get back to me with just more blind hate. :rofl:

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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah okay I see :)
Its terrible how they get treated and the Gov doesn't help them out.

Oh your welcome :D
I always try to understand the other person before judging and well "to each their own" right? also, as lame as it sounds, in my elementary school, we were told over and over again "treat others with respect" and "treat others how you wanna be treated" soo yeah it stuck with me lol and sorry you get judged and hate comments, its not right because they didn't take the time to understand your point of view.

that is a good quote :) i like it.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thanks and yeah. typo :D
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2010  Professional General Artist
Thanks and year. There are over 150,000+ veterans homeless right now and our government doesn't care. We can spend $900 Billion in Iraq to kill millions but we can spend NOTHING on 150,000 people who served our country and now as a thank you they get fucked in the ass by uncle sam? And these flamers who make hate replies on here expect me to be supportive of continued ass fuckings? Hahaha. Morons :D
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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wow, thats really sad on how they get treated since they are the ones who risk their lives for this country x.x

and wow, i cant believe so many people don't understand this x.x
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Professional General Artist
I added this video [link] to the description of the deviation, to assist in clarifying.
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X1L0B01X Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wow, i dont swear much, but that is soo FUCKED up! i mean i didn't really like the military in the first place but after this, x.x wow seriously fucked up! nothing gets me more pissed than rape to a young girl or harm to children/babies. i mean born deformed because of the USA.. its so sad.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2010  Professional General Artist
Did you get my note? Because that was one vid in an entire playlist that i am always adding to. That one vid is a drop of piss in a vast ocean of evidence.
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CaptainRex42 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Hobbyist Artist
Listen, the only thing thats keeping you safe while you post shit about the US Army.....IS THE U.S Army. So maybe shape up, learn some fucking respect and get a plane trip out of this great nation before someone kicks your ass right out of it.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010  Professional General Artist
Had you bothered reading the info text or peoples replies, you'd see that i am pro-soldiers and against our governments abuse of them. But, if you wanna die to make some rich assholes richer INSTEAD OF in defence of our country, go for it. lol

My Dad was in Viet Nam and he has read the comments on this deviation. He says people like you are just wanna-bes who have never seen action and that maybe you'll shut your ignorant hole once you do.

I don't have the time to waste debating with you on it but if you wanna debate with a Viet Nam Vet I have his permission to give you fools his e-mail address. But no one ever takes him up on it when i offer. Cuz people like u are all talk. :)

Also, why not bitch at these vets too while ur at it: [link]

Please call them traitors. I'd like to see how nicely they hand ur ass to you in their reply. Oh wait, i'll never see it. You don't have the balls to e-mail them :D

Now go get a clue little boy, then talk to me about it :)
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BrittanyIsWayCool Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2010
[Some of which I have written may be sloppy, as I've had a rough night and had little sleep..]


As a person who is getting ready to join the Army (in her own free will) this is sad.


For some people it's a way to get to where they want to be, and for others it's an experience they want to have. It's not like people are being force into the military, with people telling them "If you don't join we're going to blast your mother's head off." No. Not a chance.

I read a couple of comments talking about recruiters, and I must say this; Recruiters don't say "you WILL have this and this." No, they say "you CAN have this and this and this." They're not tricking anyone, just there are some people who choose what they want to hear, and take it as that.


The Army gives people opportunities that they will never have, and the military has changed since Vietnam. I will admit, I have seen some Veterans who have served asking for money, and it makes me sad. It's messed up how we have celebrities making millions, yet the true heroes, like police, firefighters, and war veterans, not even making anything close to them. I also believe teachers should make more.

I know many people who served in the Korean, Vietnam, and Iraq war. You are given choices with your hand of cards. Some played better with the cards they were given, and others not so much.


I believe the reason it's called ARMY STRONG, is because only 1 in 10 people can make it into the Army. You have to be physically and mentally tough if you want to survive.
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2010  Professional General Artist
I do not disagree with you. However, there is good and bad in everything and more than one perspective to everything. It is a fact that there are over 150,000 homeless Veterans that our government refuses to help. What you are saying does not change that our government is screwing them and in the future, they could similarly screw you too. Maybe they won't, because you could argue that there have been many millions and millions of people who have served over the decade and 150,000 is a rather small number compared to that. Well, that number should be 0 and its not right for those 150,000+ people to have served their country and instead of "thank you" they have been told "fuck you!".

It is a FACT that this war in iraq is soldiers risking their lives to make rich assholes richer. Again, it does not make what you said untrue. I'll remind you that you are right. But I'll also remind you that we are both right. People (especially online and especially my dad lol) act like they can not be right unless the other person they are talking to is simultaneously wrong.

It is such a sad thing that most people seem to desperate and insecure that they require agreements to be 100% and that if someone else has different views -- then despite the fact that they do not contradict nor conflict with their views and despite the fact that they are agreeing with the rest of what the person said -- that the other person expects 100% conformity and takes any expression of individuality as an offensive betrayal.

This summarizes most of the mindsets for the people who see this deviation. It really is sad.
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BrittanyIsWayCool Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2010
People want to be 100% right, so no percentage of their argument could be wrong.

I agree with you, that the number of homeless Veterans should be zero.
They did what many people couldn't do, and that is to serve.
As I said before, I wish the true heroes could get the pay that they deserve. :/
Maybe one day.

My sister, she's going to make a career out of the military. She's going to serve until she's 'kicked out' for old age.
She plans to donate some of her monthly checks to veterans who have served who are not that well off. She hopes to become police officer when she is out, it's just a matter of will she get a job at that age. :P

I decided that if I do end up making a restaurant (I'm going to be a 92G) and if it's successful, I'll have free meals for veterans on certain days, to show my appreciation for them, along with other heros as well... just as long as my business can afford it without going bankrupt. :P
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paradigm-shifting Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2010  Professional General Artist
"People want to be 100% right, so no percentage of their argument could be wrong."

At the risk of sounding harsh, thats irrelevant. If 10,000 people wanted to jump off of a bridge, we as individuals don't need to choose to Darwin ourselves with them :) I don't want to be right, I just want to learn the truth of things and use that truth as a means to advance and improve my own life. Assigning labels such as "good" and "bad" to "information" is quite silly. To use a metaphor, if we were in denial of diseases we'd never find any cures.

So we can shoot ourselves in the foot by allowing ego to perceive information that defies its paradigm as being "inconvenient" and "bad" -- or we can see knowing we are wrong about something as a wonderful and beneficial opportunity to better ourselves.

As for those who prefer holes in their feet, I respect their choice and I choose to agree to disagree.

"I agree with you, that the number of homeless Veterans should be zero.
They did what many people couldn't do, and that is to serve.
As I said before, I wish the true heroes could get the pay that they deserve. :/
Maybe one day."


As long as we keep making this a "who has the bigger penis" contest and make it about who is supposedly right versus who is supposedly wrong, then "one day" is a hopeless pipe dream. However, if we choose to wake up, show some compassion and see being challenged as a good thing and an amazing opportunity for personal growth, then that "one day" may very well be a day soon to come.

I don't think war solves anything, but I do think that if someone is willing to put their own life at risk so that your life does not become forfeit, then their sacrifice should not be repaid by shitting on them.

Sadly, there are some ungrateful fuckers who have a very different perspective about the homeless vets and the vets that are only against war because they have been through it and they have seen the errors in human thinking.

The unappreciative bastards of the world see these heroes as "deserving what they get" because they are "unpatriotic cowards" to dare think as they think and that if they are homeless, that it is their own fault that they chose to become weak pussies. It is also even more tragic that some of these assholes actually are veterans themselves, as they spit on the heroism of their brothers and sisters.

This deviation is in protest of those who would dare be unappreciative. Our troops are not weapons to be used and thrown away. They are courageous heroes who have the bravery to do what no one else will. So when the rich elites use them as worthless tools for the purpose of making themselves richer, as if their lives mean nothing and their existence is toilet paper -- then you're damn right I'm gonna protest this attitude.

"My sister, she's going to make a career out of the military. She's going to serve until she's 'kicked out' for old age.
She plans to donate some of her monthly checks to veterans who have served who are not that well off. She hopes to become police officer when she is out, it's just a matter of will she get a job at that age. :P

I decided that if I do end up making a restaurant (I'm going to be a 92G) and if it's successful, I'll have free meals for veterans on certain days, to show my appreciation for them, along with other heros as well... just as long as my business can afford it without going bankrupt. :P"


We all need to do what we feel is best. All I have been saying, is to decide what you feel is best. Most people have their opinions handed to them through main stream media marketing and the Army Strong Commercials are no exception. How many of those have you watched? They treat war like a game of Quake 3, Halflife or Halo. As if you're a hero because you've killed people. Look deeper at the psychological marketing. Its disgusting.

So its not good or bad if you join the military. Just make sure you do whatever you're going to do for the right reasons. My Dad was in Viet Nam and my grandfather in World War II. My Dad is absolutely DISGUSTED by how both our government and our citizens treat veterans.

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BrittanyIsWayCool Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2010
It's because that's all teenagers can relate to, that's all they ever do these days, play video games.
They're just trying to capture their attention.. just like how any other company would try to attract their audience.
They want to attract teenagers, that's the best way to so it.

Only problem is, the people they attract think it's going to be just like the game, and think "oh cool, I can be a hero and pwn noobs" or some stupid stuff like that.. I joke around with friends that get all excited after looking at the commercials and tell them that there's no respawns, and it's true.

The Army is something you WANT to do, not just to be cool or be a war hero, it's to protect and serve your country, even if it is just doing some shit-hole job to make the rich richer for the time being. Just the fact that they're willing to risk their lives for this country is amazing, and I feel we are forever in their debt.
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